![]() ![]() Tbh, I've been on this Wiki since 2013 and I've personally seen a LOT of progress, organization and professionalism since I first saw it, and trust me, a lot of work has been put in to make it as you see it today. He'd probably answer if you said it was for the Wiki, too. I don't know where the source is, if there is one to begin with, but it's not exactly hard to get an answer from Butch considering how active he is on YT and Twitter nowadays if you really care about it. Whether the anon was wrong and there is no source, it's probably being allowed to slide as it is too important to remove if it is real. Over a full year before Mr.DarkPhantom joined. ![]() My point? The section of Ember's page that is in discussion right now, her past, was added in 2011 by an anon. Most Admins will block rather quickly and revert back to canon immediately, why do you think the majority of Community Central posts are people promising "to change their ways if the Admin would oh please please PLEASE unblock them RIGHT NOW OR ELSE!!!!111!"? But, we are talking about this specific Wiki, which, if you would have put five minutes into searching you would have seen that the Founder never made a single edit and it was adopted by Mr.DarkPhantom who joined in 2012. forgiven if intentionally false or inappropriate. be automatically trusted without a source or 4. Just because anyone CAN edit the pages does NOT mean in any way, shape or form that their edit will 1. UGH, I HATE when people say Wikia and Wikipedia aren't trustworthy because "ANYONE can edit it", as the people who say that usually have no clue about how Wikia and Wikipedia actually work -_- Yes, anyone can edit any pages but the vast majority of Wikis have Admins that monitor every edit, can protect pages and will block vandals. Other sections like backstory and powers are generally much cleaner because you can easily tell what is false and what is Those are fanmade but yep, that's pretty much right Yeah, she could be, but considering her, ahem, lifestyle, as well as her appearance, it's pretty safe to assume she was once a living human. And when I say you can't trust the wiki, it's primarily these sections I'm referring to. Basically what I'm saying is, if you want to get rid of opinions, you'd have to wipe out around half the content in the personality and relationship sections all over the wiki. Personality descriptions basically try to tell people how to think based off of one person's interpretation. They want people to draw their own conclusions about a character based on the character's actions. I'm sure Butch Hartman wouldn't try to define each character's personality, or any writer of any show or book that was ever written. I feel like character personalities in general should be left out of bios except for the bare bones, since actions that paint their personalities will be interpreted differently by different people, and can't be defined with black and white evidence. I think I'll just stick to big stuff or anything to do with the powers/abilities listing for my edits. There's just so much it would drive me insane to try to fix it all, especially since I'm unable to directly edit at the moment and explaining what's wrong with each thing to you guys to edit it for me would be even more tedious. It's more like the tip of the tip of the iceberg when taking the whole wiki into account. ![]() And this is just the tip of the iceberg on Ember's page alone. I don't care if someone wants to draw their own conclusions for themselves as some sort of headcanon, but since it's not supported by hard evidence, it really doesn't belong on the wiki. Apparently someone decided the reason Skulker and Ember are dating is because they have similar personalities which is apparently proven by the fact that they both have flaming hair and boots. Then there's the relationship section about Skulker. I mean sure she probably could be seductive, if she wanted to, but it's not supported by her actions as of yet. Calling her seductive sounds like someone is reading a bit too much into things. She used a love spell on Danny, but that didn't seduce him. Sure she hypnotizes people, but they aren't seduced. I don't know about you guys, but I don't recall Ember doing anything remotely seductive. I got about four words into her personality section and saw that someone decided Ember is "seductive". Not huge unrealistic assumptions, just a lot of small assumptions that aren't totally confirmed. At the very least, Ember's page has a lot of assumptions about her opinions and motives on things. ![]()
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